Talk is cheap. We agree! And that's why we're sharing this interview with Josh S., where he goes through the EXACT steps he took to turn a simple investment of under $100 in our lists, into a $60k Cash Profit & $850 monthly rental income.
We started Vacanthouses.org for a very important reason. If you haven’t noticed, the whole real estate industry is scrambling to THROW money at any advertising channel they can.
One of these is Facebook…
(for the record..... my real estate ad agency “Red Agency” worked with over $400,000 in adspend per month in Facebook throughout 2017 & into the Spring of 2018 so we were a part of this channel, & know the costs first hand.)
But we watched helplessly as Facebook’s data has become severely “kinked”, and now our friends & partners are spending over 3 times what we spent 12 months ago to get a simple real estate buyer lead. (from $2-$6 up now to $9-$17)... 75% of the time for “tirekickers” with a bad attitude.
And now we’re done. Yup, we shut the doors on our traditional Facebook Ad agency.
Not because we couldn't do it well... But because we decided it was a WASTE of our clients money to put into that SATURATED ad channel.
(Don’t get me wrong, we would deliver leads with a guaranteed 40% response rate, up to 17 per day in some markets; but the Facebook DATA archives have been GUTTED since the start of 2018, and the cost is more expensive than ever.)
Now we teach how to find the MOTIVATED SELLERS; the cream of the crop.
And try scaling an ad campaign in ANY platform to find qualified, motivated sellers. It’s extremely expensive (to the tune of $75-$500 per seller lead) but it pays when you get one.
And that’s why we’re still in real estate, because our customers & clients stand to make a fortune when they buckle down and commit to a plan.
Like Ted, from New Jersey.
Ted bought a custom vacant house owner list from us & decided to start calling. Now Ted’s an investor, no real estate license.
He was looking for a property he could flip quick. In with a quick fixer, and sell near retail price. His first 2 calls were static. His third found it’s way to the son of the recently deceased owner. The son was astounded he was getting a call from a real estate pro.
Why? Because mom had been in the grave for no more than 2 weeks when Ted called about the vacant property estate she passed down to her kids.
He had no idea what to do with the house. It was a problem for this kid.
(from Ted’s testimony, it sounded like the “kid” was in his 30’s, let’s call him Jeff...)
But all the same, who do you think Jeff started asking for pricing info, and eventually an offer?
You guessed it, Ted.
And Ted secured that deal because he was a serious buyer with a clear vision and a little bit of a knack for “connecting” with people.
Now Ted was able to flip that $160k fixer into a $223k quick sale in 3 months. He walked with a cool $38k Profit after costs.
Now replace Ted with a licensed Real Estate Agent. And instead of offering to buy the property, they explain to Jeff that he has several options.
Option A, is the agent can introduce a whole “army” of buyers to his property and get him cash offers for it AS-IS, maybe even some very attractive $$ amounts.
Or Option B, the agent explains the work, time, risks, and financial strain of getting that property legally cleaned up, literally cleaned up, and ready to sell at retail price, minus his fair commission. It adds up… you know this… and that’s why vacant house owners are motivated.
Do you think that Kid will trust that Realtor? Well we hope so… but comes down to the PERSON who is doing the talking.
Guess what? IT DOESN’T MATTER if he trusts that Realtor.
What?! Yes, you heard me correctly.
Because that Realtor was able to acquire an ENTIRE LIST of “kids” & aging vacant house owners for a FRACTION of the cost of a normal marketing & ad campaign.
(These highly targeted lists range from $29 for City searches of Vacant properties to $49 for County wide searches. We even offer a custom search option for getting vacant properties at 3 cents each.)
And that Realtor (Ted too) can have 10 of these conversations in a day if they just reach out. That’s called being able to scale.
Here is the CRUX of why Vacanthouses.org exists.
We see a massive OVER COMPLICATION in the market.
All of these marketers and fancy gurus are making you FEEL like you don’t know what to do. Then they over complicate the issue & pretend they have the SECRET SAUCE And they justify their secret sauce by comparing their financial position, and those of their students to YOU!
What a crock!
The truth is; business is simple.
Offer a service that fills a need.
Then offer that service to the people that NEED IT, at scale.
Do it enough times, and you will GET BETTER. (As Jim Rohn, famously says)
If you’re interested in having these conversations with Vacant House Owners & Absentee Owners in the next 48 hours, then order a list from our site at this link -> HERE.
If you want to learn more, feel free to send us an email at firstname.lastname@example.org or read more on our BLOG or FAQ page.
Cheers To Your Massive Success!
Josh & Jay, Co-Founders of Vacanthouses.org
Data is transforming our society...
So much so that NOW, better than EVER BEFORE, you can market to only the most likely customers for your business.
It doesn't matter if you specialize in selling condos, buying distressed houses for CASH, or helping investors with their rentals portfolio.
You NEED to be customizing your marketing message to your audience, and market to them CONSISTENTLY & at SCALE.
To better serve our customers, and to provide what ALMOST NO ONE in this industry is providing;
We are making a few changes to our company... honestly it has been a part of the plan all along.
We look forward to helping you grow & scale!
Jay, Co-Founder www.vacanthouses.org
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Vacant houses represent one of the most viable sources of good deals on investment real estate. An owner with any of the vacant house problems described by the 3 V’s & 3 T’s (scroll down to read what the 3 V’s & T’s are) is PROBABLY a motivated seller. (Probably means, HIGHLY LIKELY to be; that’s what you want)
Your job, as an investor, is to find these owners and solve these issues by giving them a "relief" to their problems.
Most vacant house owners don’t even know they’re motivated. For one reason or another they haven’t take the initiative to sell; and no one has been courageous enough to explain to them their options.
Enter you, an experienced real estate investor solving big world problems, one transaction at a time. Now you need to get their attention.
Here are 11 Steps to Getting a List of Verified Viable Vacant House Leads
Finding the owners of a vacant property can be as easy as a free public records search or as difficult as finding a needle in a haystack. Here is the absolute, hands down, best approach for finding & investing in vacant properties in your County:
Do you see what we did there? We listed all of the items you would normally have to accomplish to find vacant house leads in your locale.
When you use Vacanthouses.org, you can go ahead and SKIP steps 2-8 essentially saving you HOURS and even WEEKS of time analyzing, hemming & hawing over your few leads.
We deliver you hundreds of potentials so you can start contacting owners ASAP.
Of course, you better make sure you understand your deal types and contracts, line up buyers and investors, establish your credibility, and know what your “scripts" inside and out…
But this is about size of it… NOW GO GET SOME CONTRACTS!
We want to help you do more deals in less time! All you have to do is go to our “Order Now” page, order a list, and you’ll receive it in 48 hours!
Heard of the 3 V’s? Here are the 3 T’s of Vacant Houses
In real estate investing you learn very quickly that vacant properties attract the 3 V’s. A vacant house is a welcome environment for Vermin, Vandals, & Vagrants.
We’re not just talking about a few nuisances here; have you seen the damage a raccoon can do? Well it’s nothing compared to a surly pubescent graffiti artist with an anger issue.
Look, no homeowner wants any of this in their house and although there is a risk of damage, the REAL risk is the 3 T’s… bet you’ve never heard of those huh?
The Three T’s should be a part of the conversation with any homeowner you’re trying to get under contract. They are Taxes, Tort, and Trusts.
Taxes: You are still obliged to pay your property taxes on vacant properties just like any other. There are tax abatements available in certain locales, but typically are few and far between.
Keep in mind this also includes potential HOA fees, community dues, and potential fines or liens against the property. And these liens can eventually bring the state to seize property!
Tort: We are including tort law to represent potential lawsuits brought against the homeowner for anyone injured or suffering a loss while upon the vacant property parcel.
Now typically an owner is protected from a lawsuit if someone is to hurt themselves on their property, but only if the conditions on the property are considered standard. Meaning, if the home has boards with nails sitting on the side yard, and a trespasser falls and loses an eye, they can sue for gross negligence to keeping the property safe. WHAT?! Thats right, tort is important for an owner to consider.
Most homeowners are unaware that their vacant house is not insured as they might think. “But, I have homeowner’s insurance,” says the homeowner when filing a claim. A review of their policy will reveal that homeowner’s insurance requires the home is occupied. For long term vacant homes, the owner is required to have a “builder’s risk” policy that covers empty property.
When you engage with potential sellers – be sure to point out this crucial fact. With the potential of no or much more expensive coverage, the owner will see the liability and may be more motivated to sell.
Trusts: Here’s the real conversation started (and usually the finisher) when it comes to vacant houses. Owners are thinking about their net worth and their whole portfolio. When they inherit a home, need to monetize their estate, or want to pass along property, this is typically done through the mechanism of the trust. Not always, but most of the time for the well-to-do owner.
This conversation is usually the one that is most likely to bring you a potential contract, so its best if you study up before your next call.
Let me sum this up with a very simple fact. If you are an investor, real estate agent, wholesaler or flipper… you need to be aware of the risks and motivations for owners to do a deal with you.
They need your help! Now go out there and give it!
Get started with your first Vacant house list now by clicking the button below.
Transcript: Finding and Buying your First Vacant Houses List
all right everyone getting started
marketing to vacant houses and vacant
homeowners we're just gonna jump right
into it this is Josh with vacant houses
org we are a micro service that has
sprouted up in the last few years as
data becomes available and we wanted to
bring our service to you so one of your
first hurdles that you have to you have
to hurdle as a real estate investor
getting into the game whether you're a
whether you're going to buy out
properties fix and flip them or you're
gonna buy and hold them is deciding your
strategy and moving forward with
marketing to the homeowners that you
need to talk to and then having a
message that speaks to them and fixes
their problem you fix big problems to
get paid big money and that's why a lot
of real estate investors are in this
game so we can just jump right over to
vacant houses org just so you can see
what we are we just provide national
lists of vacant homes we sell them by
county investors wholesalers property
managers I'm just a list of some
Associates of ours that have used our
lists really simple you can just click
this order now tab and you can go and
find your state and order a vacant house
list anywhere from 19 to 29 dollars per
list it'll include every single vacant
house in the county that you order it
now there are a number of pieces to this
puzzle so if I click on California and I
go down and I order let's say for OC and
la Gorge County and LA County
I want property I want phone numbers of
owners and I want out-of-state owners
and that's two counties I'm gonna add
that to cart over here we keep our
checkout really basic actually that's
two times so it would be $58 for those
two lists PayPal debit credit all that
stuff but let's actually look at what
that list does so I want to dive into
I'm going through that list you can get
of what you would get through our lists
as opposed to other list sources that
you may go to something like list source
so starting with just this is actually
North Orange County this is what a list
would look like if you order through our
site so let's just look at the very
first one Los Alamitos Drive in
Eric personal becker so this is probably
a corporate owned corporation owned you
can identify between private corporation
owned and entity owned which is going to
be a bank or somewhat the last sale on
record hundred forty two thousand is the
phone number of the owner here and a tax
mailing address so as you can see he
lives in beautiful Santa Monica if it is
Eric or maybe it's a family member in
the trust beautiful Santa Monica Los
Alamitos Center so what we do is we just
copy this if I was to buy this list and
I just go to Google and I would throw it
into Google and see what comes up now I
wouldn't use Zillow a Zillow actually
doesn't have all the information in the
places we want it let's say we open it
up here's some information on the
property but typically these vacant
houses you're not gonna get a lot of
photos they're gonna be off market this
estimates gonna be way off so I would
not trust that the best thing to do is
first jump to red fin because red fin
puts a lot of some better data up here
at the top is it 1930 and 1932 up here
not for sale public record there is a
photo as you can see it doesn't look
like it's been updated in a while the
the home here unknown last sold price so
the list had a better data there for bed
two and a half baths you're not going to
get that with our lists we're not we're
not gonna send over all that information
typically that's very easy for you to
find if there are obscure properties
we're more than happy to help with one
off sand and bulk finding information
but built in nineteen eighty okay so
this looks like a property where I
probably would want to reach out to the
owner what I would then do marketing
plan number one most direct give them a
phone call you reach them that's great
if you don't reach them that's also
great because you can leave a message if
it's an unconnected
number or disconnected number you can
order a a skiptrace and that will find
all the information associated with this
this address and that phone number and
you can probably throw in this tax
mailing address as well that's the next
way to go about it you can direct mail
the vacant house and maybe you'll find
the property owner and maybe you'll find
a family member but it's actually
arguably more effective to send a direct
mail piece to the tax mailing address so
everything in this column that you would
be getting so let's look at the next
property just to get an idea here of
just so I could walk you through what I
would do and I'm actually looking at
this the first one I I already looked at
this one I'm looking at Van Buren Street
for the first time so okay in Placentia
fast people search we're actually gonna
jump down and we're gonna look at Redfin
not for sale doesn't look like it's in
horrible condition some cars right there
to bed one bath last sale 685 Pedro
Gomez lives in Santa Ana at least the
tax mailing addresses there interesting
let's see if there's anything else that
pops up on Google for sale by owner Van
Buren stream there's a 166 it's 209
someone else was for sale by owner there
sometimes you can actually see a for
sale by owner of the property you're
looking for either way instead of
wasting time trying to do my research
the most effective way to launch your
marketing plan is call this number send
a direct mail piece to this mailing
address and then move on the value of
being able to look at this copy this
next address paste it into Google the
whole value is for you to get an idea of
okay that property looks like it needs
help this one definitely looks like it
needs help does that look vacant that
looks completely vacant San Jose laying
in Placentia redfin estimate probably
way off although I don't know the
difference between Redfin in Zillow's
estimates unknown last sold price what
we see here it's also unknown lucille
ting she lives in hiding - Beach that
looks like a nice property let's look at
night in Beach
well that property 202
5-1 looks beautiful
this person probably doesn't want to
deal Lucille or her closest family
member the sake in over her estate
probably doesn't want to deal with this
vacant house over in Placentia although
they may be holding on to it who knows
you need to reach out to them so that's
what our lists provide as you can see
there's a lot of a lot of valuable stuff
here just in North Orange County they're
you know almost 500 on this list you
would get this list for $29 and you
would place your order right over here
so list source is a little different if
you were to use list source the
difference is you would build your list
and come here and this is actually
touted in the bigger pockets bigger
pockets is a great blog you should
become a member of it's 20 bucks a month
for the base membership and it is super
valuable or 19 bucks a month so let's
say city state Georgia
Aaron Georgia I get that and I'd save
criteria and then what happened is list
source wants me to fill out all this
information about myself everything and
then they're going to quote me somewhere
between on the low end low end four five
six cents per item
meaning per property upwards of ten
I've heard of it being higher as high as
50 just depending on the data you
request and it's gonna end up being more
expensive bottom line our our service at
vacant houses organ is pretty dang cheap
it's 20 it's actually nineteen dollars
and then an extra five dollars per
county for phone numbers included and
then another extra five dollars if you
want out-of-state owners included as
well but either way every single county
19 bucks is the base price and then you
can just add them up in for multiple
counties so yeah that's how you do that
so just to sum it up vacant houses org
our pricing is $19 to 29 per County list
our delivery time is a guaranteed 48
hours as opposed to list source
I believe list source takes time to
aggregate their data it could take
several days someone may some people may
have gotten them instantly I know that
if you go to the your city websites or
your County Assessor websites and you
request certain lists first off you have
to figure out your County website you
have to understand how to use it and
where you're going to request the
information and know exactly what
information you're requesting if it's
vacant house is a list of vacant houses
if they're tax delinquent properties you
got to have a marketing plan decided and
you got to know you gotta go and figure
it out a lot of times I can be free
which is great sometimes it may cost you
a lot more time whether that's one hour
whether that's 15 hours and maybe a week
of waiting for them to even respond to
you vacant houses org will do it in two
two days 48 hours you get to identify
between single-family multifamily condo
townhome mobile you can exclude or
include any of those entity corporate or
corporation or privately owned privately
owned is the most popular out of state
owners phone numbers on record you can
range anywhere from zero to a hundred
percent equity for the properties II
request you can designate how many years
since the last sale of the property you
can see the last purchase price on
record which sometimes inaccurate we've
we've seen depending on on where that
whether it's sold off market or on
market and then includes the tax mailing
address of the owner which is super
powerful so that's what we got for you
and thanks for listening